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#101  Edited By Robertos
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@silentchief said:

Lmao! Leftist always want to desperately see things in their worldview and Stan went with it 🤣

That was about LGBQT+.

For Civil Rights he directly said otherwise.

And two years later in 1968, in a Stan’s Soapbox column, Lee made his most explicit statement yet on civil rights and acceptance:

“Let’s lay it right on the line. Bigotry and racism are among the deadliest social ills plaguing the world today,” he wrote in December 1968. “

“I loved that idea,” Lee told the Guardian in 2000, as the first X-Men movie hit theaters. ”It not only made them different, but it was a good metaphor for what was happening with the Civil Rights Movement in the country at that time.”

"It came along the minute I thought of the X-Men and Professor X. I realized that I had that metaphor, which was great. It was given to me as a gift. Cause it made the stories more than just a good guy fighting a bad guy.

He's said it more often than not so I'm going to go with this common sense and direct words from Stan himself. And even if it wasn't, so? It's about overcoming hate, prejudice, and bigotry. Fighting for equal rights, and bigots trying to kill them or make laws against them. At times an apartheid or slave like states of Genosha.

Also, and more importantly, the creator of X-Men 97' goes even further in these progressive statements.

'X-Men '97' Executive Producer Beau DeMayo Reveals Series' Story Is Informed By His Experience As A Black Gay Man.

Anyway, none of this is what makes 97' good. It's the writing, animation, and directing. Not how woke or anti-woke it is.

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#102  Edited By Silentchief
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@robertos:

That was about LGBQT+.

The second quote was not the first. The first one regarding the civil rights movement reads as follows.

At one point in the interview, Lee said, “Now, take the X-Men. I was just originally trying to get an interesting group of characters with interesting powers and I thought it would make it twice as interesting if the public didn’t really like them that much and if they had a worry about their reception by the outside world.”

He continued, “Little by little I began getting mail saying how great it is that I’m doing these stories about bigotry and the evils of bigotry and so forth and race hatred. And I guess I was doing that, but I was doing it subconsciously. That wasn’t the main purpose.”

It's pretty clear what happened. Stan just wanted to make a story with cool characters and when he was praised for telling these stories that resembled the " civil rights" movement he ran with it but that was never his intention. So the poster that said it was " created to help the civil rights movement " has no clue what he's talking about.

@robertos:

He's said it more often than not so I'm going to go with this common sense and direct words from Stan himself. And even if it wasn't, so? It's about overcoming hate, prejudice, and bigotry. Fighting for equal rights, and bigots trying to kill them or make laws against them. At times an apartheid or slave like states of Genosha.

Also, and more importantly, the creator of X-Men 97' goes even further in these progressive statements.

Overcoming hate and prejudice doesn't make something " woke". That has nothing to do with it. When the right refers to " woke" content it means putting modern leftist ideologies at the center of the experience at the expense of everything else. X-Men 97 doesn't do this. Hate and bigotry is not exclusive to the right. For an example It's young leftist who need a lesson about " Genocide being bad" as they are calling for all out extermination of Jews ( I don't think Magneto would be a fan).

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'X-Men '97' Executive Producer Beau DeMayo Reveals Series' Story Is Informed By His Experience As A Black Gay Man.

Thats nice he can say whatever he wants but the reality is as someone who read X-Men all throughout the 90's he is just adapting existing stories from Chris Claremont... and doing it pretty accurately with no extra agenda.... which is why it's actually good. Regardless he's already been fired 🤣

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#103  Edited By Silentchief
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@silentchief said:
@mrbojangles25 said:

They point to failures and say "See? I am vindicated!" why ignoring successes or things no one cares about, all the while saying how little they care about race until an opportunity to care in their way presents itself.

They also seem to believe that these concepts are mutually exclusive, or can't be held together at the same time. You can put forth an agenda and be a authentic or quality. X-Men was quite literally created to aid the civil rights movement of the 1960's, and is one of the most successful comics of all time to the point it can be considered American mythology.

This explains the constant, crippling cognitive dissonance that conservatives and worse experience these days. "No...NO NO NO! This can't be good! They changed this character's race, therefore it serves an agenda I disagree with! ARRRRRRGH MY BRAIN! It's....GOOD?! NO IT CAN"T BE! I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT!"

It's amazing the lack of basic critical thinking from leftist on this issue or any issue for that matter.

X-Men were never created to aid the Civil rights movement. But that's a lie you have heard so many times you accept it as fact. Stan lee himself said" it was the furthest thing from his mind" but as time went people were drawing similarities between them and it became an allegory for prejudice. He was tired of coming up with original stories for how characters got their powers so he came up with the concept of Mutants. Up until the early 90's Magneto was just a basic cartoon villan until Chris Claremont took inspiration from Jewish leader Menachem Begin. So ironically the Xmen became a part of American mythology because it was created in a way that anyone could relate to it. And ironically enough it's main characters were not at all inspired by the American Civil rights movement. But if alternative facts help you cope have at it.

It's amazing how conservatives can call flops with 95% accuracy and leftist are still blaming Covid. Did it surprise you when the " Little Mermaid flopped " ? Or when the all female ghost Busters tanked? Or when" The Marvels " became the biggest flop in MCU history when conservatives called every one of these and you all continue to deny the reality that's apparent to everyone other than those in complete denial?

El oh el. You don't understand at all the message of the X-Men.

I do actually. It's often seen as an allegory to prejudice. However I'm not sure how that would justify race swapping existing characters are going against established lite which is what we're talking about here.

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#104 Silentchief
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@sargentd said:
@robertos said:
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What's "far right" about asmondgold.

Not him. His viewer base, mods, and story selection. The community.

Cool opinion

Uh huh. Pro-Trump stuff getting thousands of upvotes and anything contesting it getting like 10 upvotes and being piled on. Mostly stories bashing woke nothing burger stuff, and ignoring all right wing terror events where people actually die. Doing videos on Biden verbal gaffs, but ignoring a fucking rape liability. Sure buddy lol.

And any story involving a black or brown person is full of racist AF comments. Can't even quote them here. This just isn't how it used to be in 2017 dude.

I think they even had a Trump vs Biden poll and it was like 80:20.

Think your letting your own political bias getting in the way, not accepting that there is a growing amount of people who think differently from you in politics...

You've already compared asmongolds channel to a Neo nazi forum.. that's a bold claim. Got receipts that show he's running some neo nazi channel?

Or are you just being a pissy lib because you see a community that leans more against biden than it does trump.

Asmondgold is in Texas, shouldn't surprise you.

Alot of Centrist Youtubers are siding with the gamergate 2.0 crowd because leftist game journalists and many developers are bat shit insane. At some point you have to look at reality. A quick social media search on some of the people making games shows these are not well adjusted, normal human beings.